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U Bosanskoj Posavini, zapadno od Brčkog, do današnjih dana sačuvao se jedan prastari običaj, za koga znamo još od prije najezde Turaka. To je trka pasa koja se održava uz jedan crkveni blagdan, a za nju se uzgajaju posebni «psi za trk» kako ih početkom ovog stoljeća naziva Adametz pisac udžbenika o stočarstvu, ili «stari hrti» kako ih narod zove da bi ih razlikovao od danas mnogobrojnijih uvoznih hrtova iz zapadne Evrope. U davna vremena ti su psi bili vrlo rasprostranjeni u našim krajevima. Spominju se u dokumentima starim oko 7 stoljeća, a čak postoji mišljenje da su Englezi iz njih selekcijom stvorili današnjeg dalmatinskog psa. Opstanak tih pasa u velikoj je opasnosti. Uvozni engleski hrtovi daleko su bolji trkači te ih istiskuju s trkaće staze, a to znači i uzgoja. Za našu kinologiju bila bi neprocjenjiva šteta da propadnu u zaborav.

Prof.dr.Mario Bauer

BOSNIAN/CROATIAN SIGHTHOUND,

the Starohrvatski Hrt

My interest in this breed started when I got a mail that went something like this;

First of all a lesson in the Croatian language;

The name, "Starohrvatski hrt" is what we call them in Croatia. "Starohrvatski" means Old Croatian (Staro - Old, Hrvatski - Croatian), and "Hrt" stands for sighthound.

It is pronounced as you read it, you have to pronounce every letter in the word. Let me try to put it in English: Star-O-Her-Vat (?)-Ski Her-T. I know it's complicated for foreigners, but try it, unless it breaks your tongue, you'll have a lot of fun

Starohrvatski_hrt.jpg

http://home.swipnet.se/starcastle/star/ ... croat.html

In some parts of Croatia, there are people who hunt with greyhounds and

borzois, but it's illegal, against the law here. Anyway, you wouldn't

believe what those dogs are capable of hunting ! They even use them in

groups with German Hunting Terrier, to hunt down boars ! On a few occasions

some years ago, they even used azawakhs and our native breed, Old Croatian

Sighthound (!!!!!), not recognized by the FCI, a breed similar to Rampur

Dogs, similar in height, weight and exterior. They are black and white,

spotted, exclusively. There are just a few left here, maybe 10-20, and

nobody is really trying to preserve the breed and fight for it. Anyway, it

would take about 15 or 20 years to refine the breed and put some fresh

blood in it, and that would definitely have to be achieved with greyhounds,

which would eventually give us the same dogs like the ones we have but with

a normal background (not brother/sister or mother/son or father/daughter

breeding). It is a breed with very good hunting abilities, kept exclusively

for hunting a long time ago.There are so few of them, that even

our Croatian Kennel Club doesn't give them pedigrees ! There was a man

here, doctor of veterinary medicine, who tried to reestablish the breed, he

came very close, had som litters, but people who took the puppies never

bred them ! It's a damn shame (please excuse my language, but it is) !

Stari_hrt.jpg

Sadly, there is no written standard for Old Croatian Sighthound ! Imagine that !

Nobody ever wrote it, not to my knowledge, but there is a chance I don't have the last

information, since I talked about them for the last time seriously some

three years ago.

stari_hrt-500.JPG

The breed itself is about 1200-1300 years old, according to authorities. It's allegedly mentioned in the writings of the friars of that age, and there are probably some old drawings of those dogs.

It's unbelieveable they managed to survive almost unchanged all these years, they were just given occasional greyhound blood to freshen the lines, since there was never too many of them, and the last attempt to present them in public here was in 1993. After that, nothing.

With the war in former Yougoslavia and all, it has been difficult to get more info out of Croatia, but a sighthound judge I managed get in touch with got this info from his Croatian judge-friend;

"About OLD CROATIAN SIGHTHOUND, better known as OLD BOSNIAN SIGHTHOUND - the story was actually approx. 14-15 years ago, from University ProfessorDr. Maria Bauer, who still works at Vet. University in Zagreb. This was more an attempt to breed something than to save them, if you want my opinion..... Unfortunately, no luck. Nobody was interested in this, not very attractive breed, Kennel Club never gave any written act of Standard and the breed was never recognised by the Kennel Club. Believe it or IВґve never seen the breed in life, only from one photo, published in Mr. BauerВґs book.

This is all I have been able to find out, if you have additional information about this breed, please contact me.

Susann Stjernborg, Sweden

starcastle@swipnet.se

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Ja sam za ovu rasu takodje saznala iz knjige Prof. Bauera, ne secam se da sam kasnije nailazila na tekstove o njoj. Na ovim slikama najlepsi mi je pas sa trece fotografije.

Da li se u Hrvatskoj nesto radi na stvaranju standarda i registrovanju pasmine? Ima li ljubitelja i odgajivaca zainteresovanih da se rasa ocuva?

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ja sam pripremio dosta opsežan rad zasnovan na pisanjima kinologa, veterinara i mojim osobnim zapažanjima pa ću to polako vremenom ovdje puštati.

Za sada se na njemu ne radi organizirano mada u mojoj sredini postoji nekoliko primjeraka tih pasa. Moram odmah reći da se tu ne radi o tipičnom hrtu već više o prijelaznoj formi iz hrta u goniča (ili obratno?)

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Starohrvatski hrt

Navodno je ona kćerka od Bilog kojeg je profesor Bauer imao na Vet. fakultetu.

Pronađena je u Topolju kraj Ivanić grada i pitanjr je dali je još uvijek živa ?

Njena slika se nalazi i u knjizi Hrvatske baštinjene pasmine , Šandor Horvath

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Pulin - mudi - bujtar (pulin, pujtar, hrvatski ovčar) kao i mađarski hrt, starohrvatski hrt - bosanski hrt - vojvođanski hrt - starosrpski hrt, manje više imaju isto podrijetlo i dugo vremena će trebati dok se ovo ne riješi. Osobno mislim da se ove pasmine, poglavito prva skupina ovčara, gotovo ne razlikuju, osim što se HO nemože pariti s ove dvije dok se druge dvije mogu pariti svaka sa sobom i međusobno. Druga skupina, hrtovi, još su uvijek dosta razjedinjeni fenotipski a napose genotipski, s time da je starohrvatski vjerojatno najmanji

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