jasmina

Chihuahua, Civava, Sekcija 6, FCI 218

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Ok su, mada mi lice na pacovcice, bez ljutnje! :?

ma nemas frke.....widis ta je to ciwawa...a ne napuljski mastif...narawno da ce liciti na pacowcice....peace

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pozdrav ljudi!

moja drugarica zeli da kupi dugodlaku civavu.zanima je koliko se krecu cene?znam da je to tesko reci,kao i kod svih rasa,dosta zavisi od perigrea i ostalog,ali eto okvirno, od-do :)

hvala unapred!

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pozdrav ljudi!

moja drugarica zeli da kupi dugodlaku civavu.zanima je koliko se krecu cene?znam da je to tesko reci,kao i kod svih rasa,dosta zavisi od perigrea i ostalog,ali eto okvirno, od-do :)

hvala unapred!

Draga Luthiena,

odgovor na ovo pitanje je jako tesko dati, u zavisnosti sta trazite da kupite,od koga trazite da kupite i za koju namenu kupujete psa, naicicete na razlicite kvalitete, a srazmerno njima i cene.

Postavicu vam sliku jedne moje zenke za koju smatram da tako treba da izgleda izlozbeni primerak dugodlake civave

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i primer civave koji sam nasao na internetu, a kakve mozete naci kod jako puno odgajivaca koji ih gaje iz komercijalnih razloga, i ovako mislim da ne treba da izgleda civava

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kao sto vam slike govore, razlika je velika u kvalitetu, a verovatno samim tim i u ceni. Inace stenci kod mene u odgajivacnici se krecu od 800-3000 eura.

A pored obracanja paznje na kvalitet, jos vaznije je dobro otvoriti oci gde kupujete psa, zbog zdravstvenih problema koji kasnije dolaze kupovinom pasa od sumnjivih "odgajivaca" . Nadam se da cete dobro razmisliti kako i gde izabrati buduceg ljubimca.

Puno pozdrava,

www.microschihuas.com

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hvala vam odgovoru,vasa zenkica je prelepa.

hvala i za primer sa slikama,nisam strucnjak za ovu rasu ali jasno vidim razliku.ovo na drugoj slici je kratkodlaka ili "dugodlaka" civava?

drugarica zeli psa za ljubimca,mada sam je ja naravno posavetovala da i ljubimac mora imati sve predispozicije da bude zdrav ali ne mora biti izlozbeni primerak,to pravilo vazi za svaku rasu.

ja cu je informisati i preneti sto ste mi rekli.hvala vam puno jos jednom i sve najbolje vama i vasim ljubimcima. :)

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Razmisljao sam da li da nesto prokomentarisem o ceni civavica ali cu ipak reci da je cena malo previsoka, posebno za one koji zele da imaju kucnog ljubimca, a da to bude civava. Ako dobro razumem, 800 eur treba izdvojiti za kucnog ljubimca???

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Pozdrav Sofronije,

800 evra trebaš da izvojiš za čivavu koja je po temperamentu i izgledu u standardu ćivave i koja ima garanciju o zdravlju i zdravlju svojih predaka

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a sve ćivave su kućni ljubimci s ti što neke imaju hobi trckanja po livadici a druge imaju dva hobija trcakanje po livadici i po izložbenim ringovima

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Pozdrav svima super su vam ljubimci,kada sam birala svog prvog kucnog ljubimca zelela sam da to bude civava ali kako ni jedan odgajivac u to vreme nije imao stence,a ja bila malo razmazeno dete i zelela odmah i sada ljubimca uzela sam sicua,sada gajim nem.male spiceve i bretone a mozda resim i da uzmem jednu civavu i ostvarim svoj san iz detinjstva. :D Bocky kad ce biti podmlatka kod tebe?

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Uskoro male bebe odg "Losbandidos" iz Cg. PG. Izuzetni, zdravi, izlozbeni primjerci. Forsiram sitne primjerke od 700 gr do maksimum 1500gr, sto je naravno tesko postici uz to i da budu kvalitetni. Moje licno misljenje je da se pretjeralo sa vecim primjercima, tezinama i da titulu jedne od najmanjih rasa na svijetu polako gubi sto bi trebalo sprijeciti. Pozdrav

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Konacno neko da kaze pravu stvar :P Ali,pazi da te neko ne prekori zbog toga :roll:

Civava polako postaje veca od vecine patuljastih rasa,verovatno zbog takozvanog selektivnog i planskog parenja :roll: Pozdravljam leglo i zelim puno uspeha :D :D :D

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Hvala. To je moje misljenje, cak pored velike tezine tu je i novi tip sa prekratkom njuskicom pa se pitam koliki je uticaj pekinezera, Chihuahua mora biti sto sitnija, laksa, ali i skladna po svakom pitanju i uravnotezena, ne strasljiva ne agresivna... To je stara pasmina i koliko vidim sve ide u nekom drugom pravcu. Vrlo cesto se na izlozbama mogu sresti djinovi koji na zalost i pobjedjuju. Pozdrav

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To je tacno,vec sam rekao...ali nekima to ide u prilog,veci broj stenadi,lakse se stene krupnije kuje... Svaki standard,kada bi se neki pridrzavali toga,propisuje da na izlozbi uvek pobedi manji pas,kada je u igri i istog kvaliteta krupniji...jos malo,civave ce da,verovatno trce za ovcama ili da budu psi za lov na medvede :P pored nekih strucnjaka :roll: ....

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:D vidis to mi nije palo na pamet... Moguce da predje i u gonice... , a "strucnjake" ne zelim komentarisati jer ih na zalost ima mnogo... Nekada su se mjerili psi u ringu ako bi to neko ponovo uveo mnogi bi odmah bili diskvalifikovani... Negdje sam procitao da su idealne civave tezine 2.5 kg hmmm Svasta...

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Gospodo odgajate civave,a niste ni standard zvanicni od FCI-a procitali.

TRANSLATION : C. Seidler. Revised by R.Triquet (amendments to the standard).

ORIGIN : Mexico.

DATE OF PUBLICATION OF THE ORIGINAL FCI VALID STANDARD : 24.03.2004.

UTILIZATION : Companion dog.

CLASSIFICATION F.C.I. : Group 9 Companion and Toy Dogs.

Section 6 Chihuahueño.

Without working trial.

HEAD

CRANIAL REGION :

Skull : Well rounded apple head ( a characteristic of the breed) preferably without a fontanel although a small one is allowed.

Stop : Well marked, deep and broad as the forehead is bulging over the set-on of muzzle.

FACIAL REGION :

Nose : Any colour permitted. Moderately short, pointing slightly upwards.

Muzzle : Short, straight seen from side, broad at set-on, tapering towards the tip.

Lips : Lean and close fitting.

Cheeks : Only slightly developed, very clean.

Jaws/Teeth : Scissor or pincer bite. Overshot, undershot, as well as any other anomaly in position of upper or lower jaw must be strictly penalized.

Eyes : Large, roundish in shape, very expressive, not protruding, perfectly dark. Light eyes permissible, but not desired.

Ears : Large, upright, widely open, broad at set-on, gradually tapering towards their slightly rounded point. In repose inclined laterally forming an angle of 45°.

NECK : Upper profile slightly arched.

Length : Medium length.

Shape : Thicker in dogs than in bitches.

Skin : Without dewlap. In the long-haired variety, the presence of a neck-ruff with longer hair is highly desirable.

BODY : Compact and well built.

Topline : Level.

Withers : Only slightly marked.

Back : Short and firm.

Loin : Strongly muscled.

Croup : Broad and strong; almost flat or slightly sloping.

Chest : Ribcage broad and deep, ribs well sprung. Seen from front, roomy but not exaggerated. Seen from side, reaching to elbows. Not barrel shaped.

Lower Line : Formed by a clearly tucked up belly. Slack belly is permitted but not desired.

TAIL : Set on high, flat in appearance, of moderate length; broad at root, tapering gradually towards the tip. Tail carriage is an important characteristic of the breed : when the dog is moving it is carried either high in a curve or in a semicircle with tip towards the loin region, which gives balance to the body, it should never be carried between the hindlegs nor curled below the backline. The hair on the tail depends on the variety and is in harmony with the body coat. In the long haired variety, the tail coat forms a plume. Tail is pendant in repose and forms a slight hook.

LIMBS

FOREQUARTERS : Forelegs straight and of good length; seen from the front, they form a straight line with the elbows. Seen from the side, they are upright.

Shoulders : Clean and moderately muscled. Good angulation between shoulder-blade and upper arm.

Elbows : Firm and fitting close to body which ensures free movement.

Pasterns : Slightly sloping, strong and flexible.

HINDQUARTERS : Hindlegs well muscled with long bones, vertical and parallel to each other with good angulation at hip, knee and hock joints, in harmony with angulation of forequarters.

Hocks : Short with well developed Achilles’ tendons; seen from rear, they are well apart straight and vertical.

FEET : Very small and oval with toes well apart but not splayed (neither hare- nor cat-foot). Nails particularly well arched and moderately long. Pads well developed and very elastic. Dewclaws must be removed except in countries where this practice is forbidden by law.

GAIT / MOVEMENT : Steps are long, springy, energetic and active with good reach and drive. Seen from rear, hind legs should move almost parallel to each other, so that the foot prints of the hind feet fit directly into those of the front feet. With increasing speed, the limbs show a tendency to converge towards the centre point of gravity (single track). Movement remains free and springy without visible effort, head raised and back firm.

SKIN : Smooth and elastic all over body.

COAT

HAIR : In this breed there are two varieties of coat.

• Smooth-haired : Coat is short, lying close all over body. If there is an undercoat, the hair is somewhat longer; sparse coat on throat and belly permissible; slightly longer on neck and tail, short on face and ears. Coat is glossy and its texture is soft. Hairless dogs are not tolerated.

• Longed-haired : Coat should be fine and silky, smooth or slightly wavy. Not too thick undercoat desired. Coat is longer, forming feathering on ears, neck, rear of front and hind legs, on feet and on tail. Dogs with long billowing coat will not be accepted.

COLOUR : All colours in all possible shades and combinations are admitted.

WEIGHT : In this breed only the weight is taken into consideration, not the height.

Weight : Ideal weight : between 1.5 and 3 kg.

However, dogs between 500 gr and 1.5 kg are accepted. Subjects weighing more than 3 kg shall be disqualified.

FAULTS : Any departure from the foregoing points should be considered a fault and the seriousness with which the fault should be regarded should be in exact proportion to its degree.

• Missing teeth.

• “Double teeth” (persistence of temporary teeth).

• Deformed jaws.

• Pointed ears.

• Short neck.

• Long body.

• Roach or hollow back (Lordosis or Kyphosis).

• Steep croup.

• Narrow chest, flat ribcage.

• Tail : incorrect set-on, short or twisted.

• Short limbs.

• Out at elbow.

• Too close behind.

SEVERE FAULTS

• Narrow skull

• Eyes small, deep set or protruding.

• Long muzzle.

• Under or overshot mouth.

• Patella luxation.

ELIMINATING FAULTS :

• Aggressive or overly shy.

• Deer type dogs (dogs with an atypical or extremely stylized structure: refined head, long neck, slender body, long limbs).

• Dogs with a large fontanel.

• Drop ear or short ear.

• Extremely long body.

• Absence of tail.

• In the long- haired variety : Dogs with very long, fine and billowing coat.

• In the smooth-haired variety : Bald patch (alopecia).

• Weight over 3 kg.

Any dog clearly showing physical or behavioural abnormalities shall be disqualified.

N.B. : Male animals should have two apparently normal testicles fully descended into the scrotum.

This amended breed standard will become effective from September 2004.

A za one koji ne znaju engleski evo prevoda sta kaze standard o velicini psa...

TEZINA: IDEALNA TEZINA IZMEDJU 1.5-3 KG.

MEDJUTIM,I PSI TESKI IZMEDJU 500 gr I 1.5 KG SU PRIHVATLJIVI. PSI TEZI OD 3 KG TREBAJU BITI DISKVALIFIKOVANI.

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Standard je skinut sa zvanicnog fci sajta www.fci.be pa izvolte pogledajte

Svaki standard,kada bi se neki pridrzavali toga,propisuje da na izlozbi uvek pobedi manji pas,kada je u igri i istog kvaliteta krupniji...
Forsiram sitne primjerke od 700 gr do maksimum 1500gr

uporedite ovo sto ste vi rekli sa standardom molim vas....meni se pre cini da ste vi malo zalutali,a ne ja :roll:

pozdrav :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Sasvim slucajno engleski mi je kao maternji... Rasne pse uzgajam nekih 30 tak god.., sto se civava tice jos se drzim starog standarda gdje joj je tezina od 900gr do 2600gr gornja granica, a sto manja to i vrednija. Zahvaljujuci novom standardu o kom govoris je idealan za nazovi odgajivace koji nemaju veze s mozgom i uzgojem. Ceste su na izlozbama civave od 3 i vise kg koje pobjedjuju sto je tuzno. U svakom slucaju vi ih pretvorite gonice a ja cu forsirati sitne primjerke da bih sacuvao rasu od nakaradnosti. Prosle godine sam u Panami obisao par odgajivaca , oni te civave od dva ipo, tri kg ne priznaju kao rasu. Tako da ne bih vise o tome. Za moje civavice imam listu cekanja narocito za ove ispod jednog kg i dobijem do dva steneta, ponekad jedno. Postavicu vam sliku muzjacica od 400 gr i visine 13 cm starosti 7 mj koji iduce nedelje putuje za Moskvu. Neka drugi stancuju civave u sto vecem broju i tezini.

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