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Ishrana sirovim mesom - RAW ishrana 2. dio

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Aj` da prebacimo Dimetovo odusevljenje i ovde, da vide i drugi :wink:

Juče smo imali "Porodičnu Enigmu", filetirali smo živinsko belo meso, i pošto se ovaj mali uzbudio, dali smo mu, onako odprilike, 1/2 onih kostiju, sa prilično mesa, na njegovo "peškirče" u kupatilo gde ga hranimo. Za par minuta uđem u kupatilo, nije bilo ni traga, ma ništa, to je sada ENIGMA, ili je pojeo ili je sakrio (što do sada nikada nije radio) :| .

Danas ću da ponovim, ali pod nadzorom :mrgreen: !

ODLICNA stvar, ne bas za ishranu, ali kao "grickalica" super dodje :wink: A ne kosta nista, ili kosta stvarno simbolicno :oops:

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Jedan vegeterijanski obrok na koji sam naisao na netu:

Zobene pahuljice, narandze, celer, banane i slatki krompir...

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Zobene pahuljice potopljene u hladnu vodu

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Slatki krompir, prethodno iseckati i obariti

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Banane

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Narandze

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Celer

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Zobene, banana, jedna tableta omega3 i multivitamina

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Pripremljeno jelo

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Cekaju dozvolu da pocnu sa jelom

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Uzivancija u duetu

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Nakon jela

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... samo sto bi se umesto tablete omege bolje uklopilo mlevene semenke lana (nod)

1 kafena kasicica lana uveliko zadovoljava dnevnu potrebu veceg psa za omega3 masnim kiselinama.

oko narandzi...nisam bas sigurna koliko su dobre... citrusi sadrze limunsku kiselinu koja moze iritirati zeludac. vitamina C ima mnogo vise u nekim drugim namirnicama...eto, u celeru

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Zaboravio sam da napisem da ide pola narandze po psu.

I ja sam vise za prirodno, uvek bih izabrao lan umesto omege u tabletama, ali ovo sam preuzeo od jednog amera,koji drzi americke bulije, a oni ih krkaju suplementima maksimalno, tako da je ovo jos i dobro :grin:

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kad smo kod amerikanaca...evo jednog odlicnog suplementa ishrani (y)

VitaPowder

VitaPowder consists of the following ingredients that you mix together yourself:

1. Nutritional Yeast Flakes

Yeast flakes contain high levels of B vitamins and minerals, including chromium, also known as

glucose tolerance factor, which is important in glucose metabolism. Helps reduce susceptibility to

fleas.

2. Wheat, Rice or Oat Bran

Bran contains minerals and B vitamins and is a good source of fiber.

3. Kelp Powder (or other sea vegetables)

Kelp is an excellent source of minerals.

4. Alfalfa Powder

Alfalfa powder is another excellent source of minerals and helps to balance the body's energy

metabolism. The combination of kelp, a sea-based mineral source, and alfalfa, a land-based mineral

source, provides an optimal balance of macro- and micro-minerals.

You can find alfalfa powder at health food stores, herb stores and natural food markets. Note: Do

not use alfalfa meal, as it is not ground finely enough to be easily digested and absorbed.

5. Lecithin Granules

Lecithin contains choline and inositol necessary for the production of neurotransmitters and

hormone precursors, and for cholesterol metabolism.

6. Vitamin C

Dogs are able to produce vitamin C, but not in sufficient quantities for all the body's needs.

Whereas vitamin C can be used therapeutically in higher doses, the amounts given here are for daily

maintenance. Mineral ascorbates (calcium ascorbate, sodium ascorbate, etc.) are best, due to the lack of

sour flavor, but straight ascorbic acid is fine, too. It is best to get a vitamin C supplement with rutin,

hesperidin, and bioflavonoids. It is easier to buy a powdered preparation, or you can crush tablets.

Natural Diet for Dogs: Guidelines for Optimal Nutrition

7. Zinc Gluconate (optional)

Zinc helps with some skin problems and is sometimes lacking in the diet. It is not critical for

your dog's health, but is beneficial either as a regular or occasional supplement. Use crushed tablets.

8. Bone Meal Powder, Crushed Eggshells, or Crushed Oyster Shell

These are sources of calcium, and are very important for balancing the ratio of calcium to

phosphorus in the diet. Dogs in the wild get their calcium primarily from eating the bones of their prey

and phosphorus primarily from the meat. Your dog gets calcium from the bone meal you provide; the

more meat in the diet, the more bone meal you should add. The more chicken and fish bones you give

your dog, the less bone meal is needed.

You can use any combination of the three calcium sources. For bone meal powder, I recommend

Schiff Bone-All Powder. To prepare eggshells: rinse off any egg residue, bake for 10 minutes at 250°

to dry them, and then grind them into small chips. If you use a food processor or blender to grind the

eggshells, be aware that this can dull the blades. Alternatively, you can use a mortar and pestle or a

rolling pin.

Table 2 shows the daily amounts to give a 30-pound dog of the individual VitaPowder

ingredients. If your dog weighs less than, or more than, 30 pounds, adjust the amounts accordingly (see

Table 7).

It is much more convenient to make up a batch of VitaPowder. Table 2 also provides the recipe

for a larger supply (approximately 12 days) of VitaPowder. See Table 3 to determine the daily amount

of VitaPowder that you should give your dog.

Table 2. Daily Amounts of VitaPowder Ingredients (30 Pound Dog) and Recipe for Batch

VitaPowder Ingredients Daily Amount Batch

Nutritional Yeast Flakes 1 1/3 Tbs. 1 cup

Wheat, Rice or Oat Bran 1 Tbs. 3/4 cup

Kelp Powder 1 tsp. 1/4 cup

Alfalfa Powder 1 tsp. 1/4 cup

Lecithin Granules 1 tsp. 1/4 cup

Vitamin C 150-200 mg. 1800-2400 mg.

Zinc Gluconate 8-12 mg. 100-150 mg.

Crushed Eggshells 3/4 - 1 1/2 tsp. 3-6 Tbs.

Table 3. Daily Amounts of VitaPowder by Body Weight

Dog's Weight Daily Amount of VitaPowder

5-10 pounds 2 Tbs.

15 pounds 3 Tbs.

30 pounds 4 Tbs. (1/4 cup)

65 pounds 8 Tbs. (1/2 cup)

100 pounds 12 Tbs. (3/4 cup)

125 pounds 14 Tbs.

normalno, ne mora sve da sadrzi. uz raznovrsnu ishranu iovako psi dobijaju sve sto im treba.

ovaj suplement se uglavnom stavlja u cisto zivo meso

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Jos jedan RAW, ovaj nije vegeterijanski:

Ovsene pahuljice, banane, celer, sargarepa, seme lana, jogurt i zumanca sa ljuskom

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Bogme je i ova vegeterijanska.

Jedno pitanje, jel to njima kao poslastica, jedan obrok ili se tako hrane non stop?

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Pa ne znam bas koliko su jogurt i zumanca vegeterijanska hrana :giggle:

Koliko sam ja shvatio, covek hrani svoje bulije 2x dnevno, ujutru im daje ovakav obrok, a popodne mesni sa kostima, postavicu i taj recept :wink:

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Pa ne znam bas koliko su jogurt i zumanca vegeterijanska hrana :giggle:

Koliko sam ja shvatio, covek hrani svoje bulije 2x dnevno, ujutru im daje ovakav obrok, a popodne mesni sa kostima, postavicu i taj recept :wink:

Vegeterijanci ne jedu meso, a vegani ne jedu nista zivotinjskog porekla. :wink:

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Ovsene, banane, dinje, rendana sargarepa, borovnice, zumanca sa ljuskom, celer i jogurt

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Jos jedan vegeterijanski:

Ovsene, lan, celer, rendana sargarepa, banana i jagode na vrhu

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Vegeterijanci ne jedu meso, a vegani ne jedu nista zivotinjskog porekla. :wink:

Sta god ih cini srecnim.... Ja jedem sve :wink:

Jedan mesnati:

Pileci batak i karabatak, sargarepa, banana, ovsene potopljene u hladnu vodu i vitamini

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Vegeterijanci ne jedu meso, a vegani ne jedu nista zivotinjskog porekla. :wink:

Sta god ih cini srecnim.... Ja jedem sve :wink:

I ja jedem sve, samo kazem razliku i sta je sta :wink:

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Za omega 3 i 6 ja koristitim kombinaciju susamovog i lanenog ulja;

Laneno ulje (kashika) Omega-3 - 7196mg

Omega-6 - 1715mg

Susamovo ulje (kasika) Omega-3 - 40.5mg

Omega-6 - 5576mg

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Ovo sto je AA napisala je apsolutno tacno. Sto se tice omega 3 i 6 kiselina susam, lan...nista bolje. :wink: Ja mom psu do sada apsolutno nikakav vestacki dodatak nisam dao, i velika sam pristalica prirodnih sastojaka koji su isto to samo mnogo bolje. Nego nisam hteo da komentarisem tamo, jer je sve bilo onako lepo spremljeno i slikano, pa sam bio ne htedoh da kvarim. :oops::wink:

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e ja sam morala da kvarim :P

kad neko hrani granulama pse, potpuno mi se uklapaju i tabletice, al kad hrani onako sveze i mirisljavo-nikako ne idu (shake)

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Slazem se da ne ide, ali kao sto rekoh to su ameri koji uzgajaju bulije, a sinonim za bulije su suplementi, jer teze ka toj nenormalnoj masi...

Moj izbor ce uvek biti prirodne i sveze namirnice.

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Resio da eksperimentisem nesto, tj. da pripremim vecu kolicinu hrane, jer zbog obaveza nekih ne stizem da kuvam svaki dan. Pripremio 10 kg mesa (juneca srca, juneci jezik, pileca ledja...). Planiram da na tu kolicinu dodam 2 kg raznog povrca i oko 0,5 kg kukuruznog brasna. Da sve to podelim u porcije od 600-700g, koliko mu dajem dnevno i zamrznem. Ima li po vama ovaj buckuris neki smisao? :grin::grin::grin:

I, ako treba nesto da dodam ili oduzmem, predlozite.

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Resio da eksperimentisem nesto, tj. da pripremim vecu kolicinu hrane, jer zbog obaveza nekih ne stizem da kuvam svaki dan. Pripremio 10 kg mesa (juneca srca, juneci jezik, pileca ledja...). Planiram da na tu kolicinu dodam 2 kg raznog povrca i oko 0,5 kg kukuruznog brasna. Da sve to podelim u porcije od 600-700g, koliko mu dajem dnevno i zamrznem. Ima li po vama ovaj buckuris neki smisao? :grin::grin::grin:

I, ako treba nesto da dodam ili oduzmem, predlozite.

Mislim da možeš da dodaš još malo povrća. U odmrznuto dodaš još pšeničnih (zobenih, ječmenih) pahuljica prethodno potopljenih 15-ak minuta u surutku ili jogurt (nema kuvanja :wink: )... Daš mu i parče sirove šargarepe, jabuke...zbog C vitamina i ostalih svežih vitaminčića...I super!

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Resio da eksperimentisem nesto, tj. da pripremim vecu kolicinu hrane, jer zbog obaveza nekih ne stizem da kuvam svaki dan. Pripremio 10 kg mesa (juneca srca, juneci jezik, pileca ledja...). Planiram da na tu kolicinu dodam 2 kg raznog povrca i oko 0,5 kg kukuruznog brasna. Da sve to podelim u porcije od 600-700g, koliko mu dajem dnevno i zamrznem. Ima li po vama ovaj buckuris neki smisao? :grin::grin::grin:

I, ako treba nesto da dodam ili oduzmem, predlozite.

Ima, kako nema. :wink: Mnogi od nas to rade, ja prvi. Ono sto bih ti ja predlozio je da mu ne mesas junetinu i piletinu. Nego napravi kombinaciju junetina povrce i piletina povrce. Ako mozes da nabavis jos neki deo pileta pa ukombinuj sa ledjima jer ne bi bilo preporucljivo da jede samo njih svakodnevno ili svakog drugog dana. Tako ces moci da mu kombinujes i sigurno mu ti paketi nece dosaditi. U junetinu slobodno ubaci jetru(na 6,7 kg ostalog mozes 1kg jetre) i grkljane. Sv meso iseckas na kockice, izrendas i prokuvas povrce, skuvas pirinac i posle izmesas sve zajedno. Kuvano povrce i pirinac su lepljivi pa se to sve lepo sjedini. Ja sam odmah dodavao i Dime zacin(semenje), pa mozes odmah u paket stavis po kasicicu i zavrsio si. Podelis to i posle kad odmrzavas samo podgrejes minut i das mu. Naravno ubacis neki mlecni proizvod, jaje povremeno, maslinovo ulje...znas vec. ;)

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