Jaherys

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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Posto imas Rota Herbal jer je za MAXY rase pasa.
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    The arguments from the extreme anti-kibble people spread questionable information for the right reasons. One of their claims is kibble messes with the pH of the stomach, throwing it off, making it difficult to digest raw. The other is kibble digests so slowly that harmful, toxic bacteria grow in the gut. Then there’s the one that kibble and raw digest at different rates, which throws the whole digestive system into chaos. There are probably some more that are on the interwebs somewhere. All not true and certainly not backed up by science. Not true because that’s not how the digestion system works. Dogs, cats, and humans have a similar process. There isn’t a selector switch in the stomach that detects kibble (or raw) significantly altering the strength of the acid or amount of enzymes released. If you ate the best salad ever produced with the best ingredients, perfectly designed for your genome, and a Big Mac at the same time, your digestive system would handle it fine. The same with raw food and the highly processed kibble. If you’re not use to kibble, or Big Macs, you could feel a little funny (dyspepsia) but your digestive system won’t be crippled. Digestion is the process of the extracting nutrients from food, shuttling the unlocked nutrition from the GI tract into the body where it is used for energy and tissue growth. The stomach and small intestine are the major sites of digestion. The stomach does not absorb nutrients; it releases them from the food, also destroying pathogenic bacteria like salmonella spp, clostridia, campylobacter and E Coli. The longer food spends in the stomach, the greater the amount of breakdown (which is good). The entire small intestine is the site of nutrient absorption, not the stomach. Nutrients released from the food are absorbed though the intestinal wall into the bloodstream. The speed of food flowing though the intestine will impact the amount of nutrients that can be absorbed. Fast moving nutrients may not be completely utilized. Once food has entered the stomach the work begins. Before the first bite of food is taken, stomach ‘juices’ are released into the stomach in anticipation of eating — the body gets ready from the smells and sight of food. Food arriving in the stomach causes stretching/distention, triggering the release of even more stomach ‘juices’. Chemical digestion of proteins is initiated by enzymes like hydrochloric acid, pepsin, and lipase and food is liquidized. Hydrochloric acid is the enzyme responsible for denaturing proteins, eliminating bacteria, and converting other enzymes. Pepsin is solely responsible for protein digestion, and lipase, which is only found in the stomach of carnivores (dogs and cats), begins digesting fats. After being turned into liquid, food begins to leave the stomach into the small intestine. Bile and pancreatic enzymes are critical for the absorption of fats, carbohydrates, and proteins. This is where the majority of chemical digestion takes place. Finally, food moves into the large intestine. In carnivores, this is where water is absorbed, bacterial fermentation takes place, and feces are formed. There was a recent experiment focused on seeing what speed raw and kibble were both digested. Using X-rays and barium (a radiopaque liquid mixed with the food), the researchers were able to follow kibble and raw meals, each fed a couple of weeks apart, through the gastrointestinal tract. While only one dog was examined, it showed raw digested slower than kibble. The experiment pretty much laid waste to the blanket statement that “raw digests faster than kibble”. It follows the common knowledge that liquids tend to empty from the stomach faster than solids and carbohydrates pass faster than proteins and fat. (Kibble contains significant carbohydrates.) When food hits the stomach, it drops into waiting digestive juices. Then, depending on how much distention, the stomach releases an appropriate amount of juices to manage dilution, so the pH can stay at a high acid level initially. Dilution (increasing pH) is part of the digestive process. It happens gradually through the digestive tract. You wouldn’t want to poop full-strength hydrochloric acid, right? The stomach has a great design that has served dogs and cats for thousands of years. One example, when calcium is sensed in the stomach, more acid is released because bones are expected due to the calcium content. It takes more digestive juices to break-down bones than, say, flesh. There are more of these ‘sensors’ and feedback mechanisms in the digestive system to efficiently extract nutrients from various diets that animals may have to eat in good times, and non-normal things in bad (like kibble). It’s important not to conjure a false cause-and-effect, mistakenly attributing digestive disruption of a sensitive stomach because a diet is changed, with feeding raw and kibble together. There are studies, detailed research on dogs and cats, and humans, giving no indication mixing raw and kibble together creates a toxic brew or digestive challenge. Mixing kibble and other food-types has been done for decades. Only recently the trend of avoiding this type of feeding seems to have become popular, fueled by suspect information and passionate emotion. Studies do show mixing some fresh, raw food with kibble is much better health-wise than kibble alone. A full raw diet is the best thing you can feed your pet and is the ideal that we should all strive for as responsible pet guardians. But there are valid exceptions and always things you can do to mitigate feeding kibble exclusively.
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Moguce da Ameri imaju dr merne jedinice(naziv)(kao pounds sto je 1kg 2pounds kod njih) sustina je ista.
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Ajde da razbijemo mit o mesanju hrane(granule i meso). Istrazujuci razne strane clanke u vezi ove teme zakljucak je sledeci. Ne postoji niti jedan dokaz da je stetno mesati jedno sa drugim. Radi se o PH zeludca koji luci kiselinu cim pas vidi hranu. Kod uzimanja granula PH je 25 dok kod sirove 15. Sta se desava, pas ce navikavanjem na miks jednog i drugog (to jest njegov organizam) spustiti ph vrednost na negde izmedju dve vrednosti gore navedene i sasvim normalno svariti hranu. Cak je preporuka da se kod manje kvalitetnih granula dodaje meso(mesa). Sto se tice mita da se tako pomesano meso brze vari od granula, organizam nema sistem detekcije sta ce brze da vari a sta sporije vec prosto ae prilagodjava i spusta ili dize kiselost zeludca bez obzira sta je u stomaku. Problemi sa stolicom desavali su se kada se odjednom stavi veca kolicina mesa u granule. Meso treba postepeno dodavati kao kada prelazimo na drugu vrstu granula kako bi se telo i organi za varenje psa pripremili postepeno za prijem sirovog mesa. Pozdrav.
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    Mops ishrana

    Carnilove hrana za pse,pet centar rs i uzivajte.Obzorom da je mala rasa visok nivo proteina ce mu dobro doci.
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Pre mesec dana kako je pas u treningu pred sezonu ubacen je Super sport umesto Brit care (ima vise masti potrebnih za trening) te ce biti na njemu par meseci. Dva obroka jedan Super sport i jedan meso(batakovi,belo ,srca,ledja,sardina sve u mix-u u ciniji) i dodatci daju fantasticne rezultate.Pas je pun energije,lepo napreduje.Definitivno kombinacijom granulat ujutru meso uvece za nas licno postignut je maximalan efekat.Ovaj Super sport odlicna je granula za odredjeni tip rasa ali nikada ga ne bih davao kao jedini i celokupni obrok u toku dana,uostalom kao ni jednu granulu bila najskuplja ili obrnuto.Cilj je podmiriti potrebe psa,znati rasu koja se drzi i njegove potrebe i u skladu sa tim napraviti obroke.Kao i znati krajnji cilj koji zelite da postignete sa psom i tu je najbitniji vas subjektivni osecaj a ne gramaza koja pise na dzaku.Premil Super sport sasvim pristojna granula. Moj Ast 14 meseci :
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Van teme, sretna nova godina svima na forumu,a Premilu,da budu sto bolji u sledecoj godini i obraduju nas nekom novom kvalitetnom hranom Lep provod svima
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Zalizak na srcu nema nikakve veze sa aminokiselinama,da ne pricam o nedostatku kiseonika.Da ste uzimali suplementaciju na bazi kofeina i beta alanina i da imate urodjenu manu na srcu moglo bi da vam se desi to sto pricate.Aminokiseline su nesto sasvim trece.
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Lekari propisuju doze od 60 mg C vit dnevno.Ne da nije dovoljno nego nema sanse da je dovoljno.Objasnio sam na primeru cigarete koja trosi bas "lekarsku dnevnu dozu".Pa vi pobijate vecinu stvari koje vet Premila napise znaci iako je vet ne znaci da je u pravu.Isto je sa lekarima i njihovoj svestio potrebama vitamina i minerala u ishrani. I nigde nisam napisao da se da cela kutija odjednom nego razumna doza uzavisnosti od velicine,potrebe,treninga,starosti,tipa ishrane,kg-psa. A mogu vam reci kad zagusti preko infuzija daju i do 6000 mg vitamina c pacijentima.Toksicna doza je 8000 mg .
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Rekao sam kao DODATAK ishrani da ne moze da skodi(A NE ZAMENA ISHRANI) jer je vitaminoza ne dokazana vec se radi o pretpostavci. Nece biti greske ukoliko se u bilo kakvu ishranu ubaci razumna kolicina vitamina i minerala putem tbl i ovo ne moze niko da pobije. Ne, ali sam siguran da ce dobiti barem dovoljno i da mu nece stetiti.Kao ni ljudima .Koliko god vam ta teza bila zanimljiva.. I ovo sam objasnio na primer Vitamina C,deluje kao da obrcete ono sto sam rekao iako sam vam dao potrebne doze sportista za C vitaminom kao primer,potrosnju istog i max absorbciju od 250 mg u roku od 2 h. Ali evo ponovo cu. Nije isto pojesti 10 kg limuna za 1000 mg C vitamina i popiti sporo otpustajuci C vitamin od 1000 mg u vidu tbl. Prvo niko ne moze da pojede toliko limuna a i da ga pojede svarice i iskoristiti samo 250 mg ostalo ce izmokriti.Kod otpustajuceg vitamina C u vidu tbl postepeno oslobadjanje askorbinske kiseline u krvotok obezbedjuje vecu absorbciju u toku dana te posledicno samu iskoristivost i benefite. Okrenite koliko god zelite ili obrnite sve sto sam napisao stoji.Nije vasa teza da ne treba suplement pogresna(ko ume kao vi ocigledno da izbalansira obrok) ali definitivno nije ni moja da im suplementacija (suplement-dodatak) ishrani moze skoditi.Sto se mene tice vise nego jasno sam objasnio svoje misljenje i iskustvo u suplementaciji a verujte mi/ili ne, da ono takvo kakvo jeste nije malo posle 22 god rukometa i 13 god teretane.
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Odlicno onda vam ne treba nikakav sups posto ste 100% sigurni da pas dobija sve sto mu treba bravo za vas. Sto se mene licno tice i sam uzimam vitamine kada smatram da mi trebaju a svetske studije pokazale su da su ljudi pothranjeni vitaminima i mineralima te dodatak istih zbog lose hrane koju unosimo ne skode. U ostalom ste se slozili sa mnom jer bi vam u suprotnom trebalo puno hrskavica da obezbedite psu terapijsku dozu glukozamina. Tako da ne treba biti iskljuciv u suplementaciji kojoj svi povremeno pribegavamo. Niti bi jedna tbl kompleksa minerala i vitamina skodila niti nama niti psima. Cak naprotiv..
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Zavisi na koji suplement mislis. Ako mislis na neki kompleks vit i min cisto iz predostroznosti i potpori organizma treba ih ukljuciti u redovnu ishranu u slucaju da nesto propustamo u istoj, a kako je vitaminoza retkost i spekulativno stanje, nece da skodi da ubacite jedan oligovit recimo dnevno kao dodatak. Sto se ostalih supsa tice to sam vec obrazlozio da se daju kod odredjenih stanja, uslova drzanja, treninga, oporavka.
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Mogu ja ako zelite da objasnjavam znacaj supsa za sportiste ali kod pasa slazem se da su vecina rekreativci i kod takvih pasa supsi su dobri kod oboljenja, odredjenim delovima godine(zima) , kod jakih treninga, kao i kod ciljanog mrsavljenja ili nabacivanja misicne mase kod psa(carnitin, aminokiseline itd) kao i kod ishrane kada se ne koristi granulat.
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Evo ja sam bio profi sportista, u vezi suplementacije za ljude pitajte slobodno. Sportistima su neophodni. Kg limuna nosi 100 mg c vitamina sto je sportisti pri fizickim naporima malo. Cigareta jedna trosi 60 mg c vit iz organizma pa racunajte. Sportistima treba od 1500 mg do 2000 mg c vit dnevno. Ovo je primer samo za c vit. Niko nece pojesti 20 kg limuna dnevno te se pribegava sporoopustajucim tbl c vitamina od 1000 mg. Organizam u 2h moze resorbovati 250 mg. Nadam se da sam pomogao.
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    PREMIL hrana za pse - pitanja i odgovori

    Tekst kaze da nije sam protein uzrok vec previse hrane koja je bogata proteinima a van je okvira potreba psa. Daje se po njima vise gramaze nego sto je potrebno.